





Technology represents our restoration of the Garden of Eden.

It never says you won't be with a woman in heaven; only that you won't have a wife.





Yes, there are many atheist Jews.

"I think we have more in common with Islam than the Jews"

	But aren't there many of us that are working together with the Jews? There are many whites that assist them.

"Only because they've been forced into it"

	No, it's because they have the same perspective. They benefit from this system. These whites gain the same wealth and status that the Jews do.

	Not to mention that we lived among them more recently and for longer than anyone else.





It’s important to not let fear take over. You have to remember - we are not of this world. We are of God’s kingdom.

	Why are you advocating for the separation of church and state?

At the end of the day, these political systems are evil.

	So you are denouncing the past 1500 years of Christendom as evil? Isn't that how we achieved all our growth? Isn't that the golden age of Europe?

It just isn't right to combine worldly systems with heavenly ones. 

When Jesus came to the Earth, everybody was expecting him to do that. They were expecting him to start the revolution. But that's not what he did. 

Instead, he created the church. He began restoring the Garden of Eden on Earth, not through violence and politics but through peace and the church.

	You don’t think Constantine advanced Christendom?

No, I don't.

What would the devil do? As soon as he saw Jesus' church growing and working, what would he do?

	Comnbine the church with state?

Exactly. And as soon as Christ's message became interwoven with the political system, everything became corrupted.

	But how can we really say Constantine didn't advance the church? Weren't there more real believers that were converted, protected, and saved as a part of his adoption of Christianity? 
	
"Real Believers?" How are we defining that?

	Well, however you would define the true and good church. People who earnestly accept Jesus into their life, and have faith in him.

Okay, sure. I don't know.
	
	And surely, this is the same for all of Christendom - the fact that the kings and governments adopted Christianity as a policy helped lead to growth and advancement of the church.

I don't know. I'm just saying that we can't put our faith in worldly solutions. Kingdoms of man rise and fall.

	When Jesus spoke to the centurion, he didn't tell him to resign. Why, then, do we assume that Jesus doesn't want us to be a part of any worldly political system?

Yes, but these political systems aren't good. Look at what we did to the native Americans - I think it would have been better if we didn't do that.
We brought feudalism to the New World.
They had a different system, which we replaced with that European one. And we wiped them out as a result.

	So you are saying that, because we did this to the Native Americans, we shouldn't be mad when it is done to us. Is that right?

No, that's not what I'm saying.

	Well, that is why we are concerned. Because our own nations are now being invaded. That is why politics is important right now.

I just don't think we can put our faith in worldly solutions.

	What if I become a politician? What if I am the one writing the law? Am I wrong for that?

Then sure, write the law how you want.

	Okay, then isn't it important to engage with worldly matters? Shouldn't I write the law in a way that is more congruent with Christian teachings.

I suppose. But to me it seems wrong to explicitly link the two.

	But you say yourself that the founding fathers got many things wrong. You think they were mistaken in their worldviews and their deism. And I agree. But isn't their secular government marked precisely by their separation from the God-given monarch of England?

	And if you don't agree with their views, then what else is there? There is no such thing as a neutral governemnt. It must be either secular or Christian.

	You say that it is important not to let fear take over. That is true. But what you seem to be saying is that it is bad to have any fear at all. That does not make sense.

	I would argue that ignoring everything because "we can't let fear take over" is, itself, a manifestation of fear. To ignore real atrocities because they may lead to political action or even war is not a virtue.

	In fact, a real lack of fear would mean a willingness to act quickly and, if necessary, to die for God's kingdom. This position you are saying sounds suspiciously like the one that will be most likely to keep you alive and comfortable.