
If we take Haiti and eradicate the gangs, what would we do then? There are 10 million people there. What would we do with them?

	We would have to establish a permanent region. A nation. And then we could grow the borders from there. 

I don’t know if I’m down for that. Taking land from a bunch of peaceful citizens doesn’t seem like Christian values.

	But they’re not that peaceful.

But you just said they are!

	They’re peaceful in the sense that they aren’t gang members, that doesn’t mean they’re generally peaceful. They’re a primitive nation with high crime. One must assume they fight and kill each other all the time. Stab each other at the bar and whatnot.

“Yeah don’t we all?”

Sure, so why not go over there and stab em?

“I dunno, it doesn’t seem very Christian. To go and conquest their land.”

Isn’t that exactly how America started?

“Yeah…
But I dunno man.
I would be down to maybe subvert them, and get them to sign away their land in exchange for first-world amenities. That’s what the Chinese are doing in Africa.”

Yeah, but Africa is winning.

“What? No they’re not”

Yeah, Africans are much more demographically successful than the Chinese are.

“Oh but that’s not what I mean. I’m talking about the nations and their power.”

If everyone in China becomes African, does it really matter how big their government is?

Would that government even exist?

“Maybe not, but I don’t think everyone in China is going to become black anytime soon.”

Sure, but nations are organisms. At any given point, they are growing or shrinking. So why would we, or the Chinese, want to shrink?

“I don’t know if I agree that a nation is just biological. Immigrants can come in and assimilate to the culture or the system.”

Okay, but where does the culture or system come from?

If they have a low IQ, doesn’t that limit the complexity of their legal system?

Doesn’t that determine what sort of structures they will build?

Doesn’t that determine what sort of books they will write, or songs they will play?

If they can’t eat certain foods, doesn’t that change the dishes they will make?

Doesn’t it determine how they worship God, or which God they will worship?

“I suppose”

So what you are saying may be true: some immigrants can assimilate. 

But doesn’t it also seem true that when we describe national cultures or systems, we are actually describing reflections of biology?

“I don’t know. I believe on of the reasons our system in America is better than the others is because it has such a big Christian influence. I think God’s will for people can and should be a part of our nation. I don’t think it’s as simple as just a reflection of biology.”

You don’t think there is such a thing as Christian biology?

“What do you mean?”

Okay. Since we are talking about Christian values, let’s talk about the Fruits of the Spirit.

Would you agree that the Fruits of the Spirit are a good approximation or summary or Christian values?

“Well there’s certainly more to the story than just the fruits. But sure, I think they are a good introduction or approximation to what Christ is like.”

And our goal is to be like Christ?

“Yes”

So our goal, or at least one of our main goals, is to display the Fruits of the Spirit.

“Yeah, sure”

Okay, now let’s talk about dogs.

Thousands of years ago, we bred dogs from wolves. 

Now when we think about the Golden Retriever versus the wolf, what is the difference?

“Where there are a lot of differences, but he’s definitely a lot nicer. Less aggressive.”

So he is Kinder, Gentler, more Peaceful, and more Self-Controlled? 

“Yeah”

And this is a part of his nature?

“Yeah”

And How did Golden Retrievers come to have this nature?

“We bred them.”

So we got dogs by breeding the Fruits of the Spirit into wolves. 

“Hmm. Yeah I guess so.”

One would think, then, that the same could be accomplished in humans.

“Interesting.”

And therefore, if our goal is to have a Godly nation, which displays the Fruits of the Spirit, we want to push forward those genes in our society. 

Now, back to the original topic. You say that you don’t think nations are purely biological, because some systems and laws are of God.

But if we have a nation that displays the fruits of the spirit, and the fruits of the spirit are biological, wouldn’t even those Godly laws be biological in nature?

But if the fruits of the spirit are biological, then wouldn’t Godly laws be biological as well?

Don’t you think there’s such a thing as Christian biology?

“What do you mean?”

Well, do you believe that temperament is hereditary?

For instance, the pit bull is aggressive because of his nature. The golden retriever is peaceful because of his nature.

Right?

“Yeah”

And we bred these dogs from the much more aggressive wolves?

“Yeah”

Kindness, gentleness, patience, peacefulness, self-control:

Aren’t the Fruits of the Spirit genetic?



“But does that make it right?”

I mean hey man, my opinion is that they should peacefully turn over the land to us and go back to Africa. But you and I both know they won’t do that. So it’s not a question of violence or not - it’s a question of who deserves that land.

And if you are saying that we can’t invade, you are saying that they deserve the land more than we do. And I cannot agree. 



